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MDUCLA_3
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Recruiting?
Posted Sun, Sep 23 12:04 pm
For those with some intel, how is recruiting going (silents, leans, top targets, etc)?

On paper it doesn't look good with early signing day about two months away. Currently have the 80th ranked class nationally and 10th best in the conference.

OswegoBruin
Joined: 11/11/10 Posts: 16,944
I would argue it's fine.
Posted Sun, Sep 23 1:18 pm
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CCK seems to think his process is not fast enough to catch up on most kids in this class, and it doesn't appear he likes many prospects from it. I think you will see more activity for the 2020 class, which is MUCH better both in terms of depth and top talent, and we've had much more time to build relationships. I think this year is far more about installation of schemes, player development, and changing the culture of the football team (IE getting kids already on the team on board, changing mindsets, and getting rid of negative personnel elements).

This class is small, too, so I think we're going to be maximizing our effort for the 2020 kids. We will have a much better product to show them next year anyway.
DocJock
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Researching CCK's Recruiting M.O.
Posted Sun, Sep 23 4:58 pm
In response to I would argue it's fine. (OswegoBruin)
I have no problem with it either.
OswegoBruin
Joined: 11/11/10 Posts: 16,944
I would add the caveat i've always had.
Posted Sun, Sep 23 6:09 pm
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If we don't put a good product on the field by midseason of year 2, we're going to be in trouble. One relatively weak class is fine, two isn't. We need to have something to pitch to kids who want to commit come early signing day next season.
Brewin Fan
Joined: 10/11/09 Posts: 8,878
Oswego, weren't you the one that said Oregon
Posted Sun, Sep 23 6:46 pm
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had coaches who could recruit, but couldn't coach. Are you still going with that?
Rabbit21
Joined: 1/16/14 Posts: 2,572
Still need players
Posted Wed, Oct 03 5:54 pm (Edited Wed, Oct 03 5:56 pm)
In response to I would argue it's fine. (OswegoBruin)
As it is there are 18 slots in next years class and at the rate of attrition we've already seen I would argue this years class will have room for the full 25. Balanced against a slow recruiting pace and a season that may as well get set on fire for all the good it's going to apparently do, I'm struggling how you see this approach as fine. You still need players and you still have to recruit players for the program, if Chip doesn't see anyone he likes in this class then how in the high holy hell does he expect anyone in the 2020 class to sign on. Why would he deliberately go into a important season with a roster with a shortage of players? If he wants to just get some depth and practice squad guys, then hit the juco's, but for God's sake recruit a full class. Not recruiting a full class never ever works out in football as banking the scholarships just means you sign 26 guys vs. 234 or 24 and I would argue having a guy with one year of coaching at the college level is worth more than the theoretical "bird in the bush". I appreciate your optimism, but this is a beyond odd defense of what appears to be, at the very least, a concerning recruiting approach. Especially when the program needs talent....now and will be further along with that talent if they get guys in who Chip can groom in his program. I get building for the future, but you do that with FULL classes.
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I just spoke to a local coach.....
Posted Thu, Oct 04 9:48 am (Edited Thu, Oct 04 9:49 am)
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via twitter and asked why the #1 HS team in the nation along with Mater Dei didn't have any of their top 4-5 star players (I was inquiring specificaly about George Halani RB Boise commit) looking at UCLA and Kelly. His response:

"THEY HAVE GUYS ON THE UCLA STAFF RECRUITING ST. JOHN BOSCO. THEY ARE JUST MOVING A LIL SLOWER NOW AND THEIR PROCESS IS DIFFERENT NOW. WE HAVE PLENTY OF BRAVES THAT WOULD LOVE TO BE BRUINS."

He also told me that Kelly never offered Halani when he took over the job. RB is not really an issue but Bosco and MD have linemen that we could use with D1 size and footwork. LB's as well. R. Goforth should be an auto commit from Bosco but not sure yet.