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cnet
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When was the last time OSU won the conference?
Posted Sat, Mar 13 8:44 pm
Before tonight.

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GOBRUINS
Joined: 1/27/05 Posts: 9,225
Never. This is their first conference Championship.
Posted Sat, Mar 13 8:56 pm
In response to When was the last time OSU won the conference? (cnet)
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AnthemForOne
Joined: 2/07/05 Posts: 2,586
Conference Tournament Championship
Posted Sat, Mar 13 9:14 pm
In response to Never. This is their first conference Championship. (GOBRUINS)
The Ducks are the conference champions, for the record.

"The only thing I know is that I know nothing."
~Socrates
cnet
Joined: 8/07/14 Posts: 9,697
Are you saying that
Posted Sat, Mar 13 9:33 pm (Edited Sat, Mar 13 9:35 pm)
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the Pac-12 tournament champion is not recognized as the Pac-12 conference champion? Does that mean the team in first place at the end of the regular season gets a trophy and banner as "regular season champion"? That would seem odd.

I've never seen a Conference Tournament Champion banner. But you can bet your bottom dollar that Oregon State will hang a conference champion banner.

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AnthemForOne
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Yes, that's what I am saying
Posted Sun, Mar 14 6:27 am (Edited Sun, Mar 14 6:42 am)
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The regular season champion and the tournament champion are recognized as two separate things. The Pac-12 Tournament champion gets the automatic bid to the NCAA tournament but the regular season champion is deemed the "conference champion." If OSU hangs a banner, it should read "2021 Pac-12 Tournament Champions," but the Oregon Ducks are the champions of the 2020-2021 season, and therefore will be regarded as the official "conference champions" hereafter. That's unequivocally how the Pac-12 does it.

You might recall, as this season was nearing the close, all the talk about UCLA having needing to win at Oregon to lock up the conference championship and, once they lost, needing to beat USC and OSU to beat Oregon for the Bruins to be conference champions, and once USC beat UCLA, how the Trojans likewise needed OSU to beat Oregon to win the conference championship, etc. All of that talk was about winning the conference championship; otherwise they would've been saying "win the top seed in the conference tournament." Ducks = "Pac-12 Champions" this year, bottom line.

The Pac-12 gives its automatic bid to the tournament winner so that every team has a shot going in to make the NCAA's regardless of their regular-season win total, which generates more fan interest in the conference tournament, which means more revenue. The conference does this because it is confident that no regular-season champion from a power-5 conference would ever be denied a tournament bid, so it opens up the possibility of nudging one more conference team into the NCAA Tournament, possibly at the expense of some other conference's bubble team, which is likely what we'll see this year with the Beavs winning the automatic bid.

"The only thing I know is that I know nothing."
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AnthemForOne
Joined: 2/07/05 Posts: 2,586
...and the Ducks know this as well
Posted Sun, Mar 14 9:04 am
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"The only thing I know is that I know nothing."
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ShowtimeUCLA
Joined: 11/19/17 Posts: 1,974
I agree
Posted Sat, Mar 13 10:13 pm
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The fact that every team makes the conference tournament undermines the legitimacy of the winner, especially after a round robin regular season where everyone plays each other multiple times.