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cnet
Joined: 8/07/14 Posts: 9,718
Utah loses to an unranked team
Posted Sat, Sep 03 6:29 pm
Oregon gets spanked. Pac-12 looks weak again.
BruinMBA
Joined: 11/22/05 Posts: 4,723
Like week 1 rankings mean anything*
Posted Sat, Sep 03 7:17 pm
In response to Utah loses to an unranked team (cnet)
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cnet
Joined: 8/07/14 Posts: 9,718
The result is the same
Posted Sat, Sep 03 7:26 pm
In response to Like week 1 rankings mean anything* (BruinMBA)
The Pac-12 is weak.
GOBRUINS
Joined: 1/27/05 Posts: 9,234
I couldn't agree more. Just about every team I watched
Posted Sat, Sep 03 7:30 pm
In response to The result is the same (cnet)
today looked rusty.
Student Baller
Joined: 7/14/14 Posts: 6,578
I remember when UCLA
Posted Sat, Sep 03 7:36 pm
In response to Utah loses to an unranked team (cnet)
Beat a ranked LSU team. That also mattered little by the end of the year.

GOBRUINS
Joined: 1/27/05 Posts: 9,234
They only lost by three. Utah is still a dangerous team.
Posted Sat, Sep 03 7:41 pm
In response to Utah loses to an unranked team (cnet)
Thank goodness they come here this year.
BruinRenaissance
Joined: 9/05/17 Posts: 3,056
I wonder what the Utah fan sites are saying about Rising.
Posted Sat, Sep 03 8:33 pm
In response to Utah loses to an unranked team (cnet)
I know if DTR had done what he did, there would be immediate multiple posts calling for his benching for the next game.
That was just a terrible, terrible decision to throw the ball into coverage when a tie is almost assured.
Student Baller
Joined: 7/14/14 Posts: 6,578
Wasn’t his fault
Posted Sat, Sep 03 8:45 pm
In response to I wonder what the Utah fan sites are saying about Rising. (BruinRenaissance)
They shouldn’t have been throwing at that point. Take the 3 and hit ot.
BruinRenaissance
Joined: 9/05/17 Posts: 3,056
You're one of those I thought of when I wrote multiple
Posted Sat, Sep 03 10:39 pm
In response to Wasn’t his fault (Student Baller)
posts would have attacked DTR under the same circumstances.
Funny how you jumped in and defended Rising. Yes, it was his fault. He threw the pick. It was a horrible choice and a bad throw.
UclanDoIt
Joined: 1/13/14 Posts: 3,922


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The fault likely is on Rising or the play call
Posted Sat, Sep 03 10:50 pm (Edited Sat, Sep 03 10:53 pm)
In response to Wasn’t his fault (Student Baller)
I agree with BruinRenaissance some UCLA fans would have ripped DTR and HC Kelly if the Bruins lost the game the way Utah did today. It was a terrible throw at that point of the game.

As for not throwing at the end, I doubt Rising was trying to throw an interception nor that HC Willingham told him to throw into a crowd in the middle of the end zone when they were in FG range. I recall there was about 22 seconds left and it was second down from the 6-yard line. Utah had no time outs left so if they ran the ball (and didn't score), they would have had to rush the FG unit onto the field to attempt the tying points. The Florida defenders would probably have tried to hold up the runner before tackling him and then hold him down as long as possible. They would then line up slowly while Utah was trying to get their FG unit on the field as the clock was running. I don't know which conference provided the officials but they might not have been helpful to Utah.

I think you try for the win on the road and you have an experienced QB, especially when you were able to drive almost the length of the field in less than 90 seconds. However, a safer pass play like a fade to the corner or a pass to the outside of the front corner of the end zone might have been the better call in this situation. Fail to convert, try again on third down, fail again, kick the FG. There is much more risk throwing over the middle (including a tipped pass).
Flat 4
Joined: 1/13/14 Posts: 4,024
Not a bad play call, just a horrible QB decision
Posted Sun, Sep 04 6:54 am
In response to Wasn’t his fault (Student Baller)
You expect your senior QB to execute when the game is on the line. He threw into a crowd when a FG would tie it. No excuse for this. For Utah’s sake hopefully he learns from it.

To suggest that you should remove half your playbook and be happy for OT when you are on the doorstep and on the road against a team like Florida is silly.
AnthemForOne
Joined: 2/07/05 Posts: 2,605
Exactly. I can't grasp all the second-guessing
Posted Sun, Sep 04 8:52 am
In response to Not a bad play call, just a horrible QB decision (Flat 4)
...of Utah actually trying to win the game rather than take it to OT. You have a senior QB who should know the situation. You call some quick-breaking routes and either he sees his guy break open in the end zone and drills it in or he throws it into the cheap seats. He doesn't try to thread it through two defenders as if he needs a TD or loses the game. I can't fathom the thinking that they should have thrown away a chance to win it in regulation with plenty of time for an experienced QB who should have known better than to force a play. You take your couple of shots at getting an open break and kick a FG if they don't work. You don't just surrender the opportunity to walk off the field and toss it back to a 50/50 prospect of an OT win, probably tilted against you being in that hostile environment. Rising blew it by forcing a very risky, low-percentage pass when he should've been savvy enough to throw away...period.

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BradleyBruin
Joined: 2/03/07 Posts: 2,991
Against Florida in the swamp, that's never a gimme
Posted Sun, Sep 04 8:15 am
In response to Utah loses to an unranked team (cnet)
And Utah had it won until that last gift. Not a great measuring stick to say Pac-12 is weak.
Crispy
Joined: 1/13/14 Posts: 6,904
Exactly
Posted Sun, Sep 04 8:32 am
In response to Against Florida in the swamp, that's never a gimme (BradleyBruin)
Hardly a measuring stick— if you want that example look at Oregon not Utah.