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bruinbeast
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75% of FBI complaint is on U.S.C. Its getting worse (1)
Posted Wed, Mar 13 3:07 pm (Edited Wed, Mar 13 3:12 pm)
Will busted Asst A.D.(Heinel)go after USC on grounds that its been going on at USC for many years.....maybe that she was told to do it (looks like)??? Lynn Swann is part of the cheating culture.

from another post......
"I read the FBI affidavit on the story that broke today. Several takeaways:

The affidavit written by the FBI is about 200 pages and I would say 70-75% of the content involves USC.

There looks to be at least 6 former and current athletic department employees involved. Yovan had at least 2 staff members who were on the payroll of the mastermind of this whole thing (Rick Singer), plus the 4 USC people already identified in several news reports (Heinel, Vavic, Ali, and Janke).

The other schools cited only had one individual as being involved in their athletic department's scandals.

Singer was directly paying the private tuition for Yovan's kids (Loyola?) Heinel was the senior administrator at USC and appears to be the internal ringleader. After a while Singer is paying her $20k month directly out of his bogus nonprofit foundation.

Mossimo (Laughlin's husband) tells Singer he will be seeing Swann at Augusta in 2 weeks and asks Singer if he should bring up daughter applying to USC (They ended up paying $500k to get both daughters in). Singer says don't discuss with Swann as Singer had talked to Swann a year earlier about Mossimo's older daughter and Swann said told Singer he thought they were good for a million plus. Is Swann really familiar with this guy to be having conversations like this? Does he know what this guy really does and how he operates? Was Swann thinking that "million plus" would be more of a straightforward donation? Not sure how to interpret this bit of information.

Dont take this too serious....its only a BruinFan message board.
bruinbeast
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75% of FBI complaint is on U.S.C. Its getting worse (2)
Posted Wed, Mar 13 3:07 pm
In response to 75% of FBI complaint is on U.S.C. Its getting worse (1) (bruinbeast)

Singer had people on the take inside the SAT/ACT process. He would sell the parents on rigging their SAT/ACT scores and "the side door process" which was getting them accepted through athletics since hurdles are different. Singer would work with most of the parents to try and hide the scheme from the kids. Not all kids knew what was being done.

Heinel was involved in taking the fake athlete profiles to the subcommitee for athletic admissions approval. Ali and Janke helped by creating the details of the fake profiles, this was even after both of them were no longer employed by USC.

Fake athlete files were created on the following sports: rowing, volleyball, pole vaulting, water polo and even football. Some of these kids were claimed to have excelled at sports that their high school didn't even provide!

What doesn't make sense is how Heinel could push for all these kids to be accepted under the various sports and yet there is no validation/reconciliation with the related coaches (other than Yovan who was clearly in the know)?

Many red flags in the details: 1) Kids would be accepted through athletics and then not show up to athletic orientation but rather go to regular orientation and nobody really followed up on that? Once they showed up at regular orientation they were done with athletics 2) Cases of school advisors talking to kids about being accepted as an athlete per their file and the kids being confused since they might not have been aware of what their parents were doing to get them in. 3) Every kid Heinel gets in results in an upfront $50k contribution from parents to USC Women's Athletics - even if it was a male athlete she pushed through! She controlled the account where the money was deposited. Who is overseeing the bank account activity? How many other athletic department people have their own controlled bank accounts?"
Section2
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No doubt it will get even worse for S'ern Cal
Posted Wed, Mar 13 3:53 pm
In response to 75% of FBI complaint is on U.S.C. Its getting worse (2) (bruinbeast)
Singer's admissions fraud racket supposedly started many many years ago, and the Feds have thus far only brought charges for quite recent activity. Southern Cal also may face lawsuits from rejected applicants. It's not like just one undeserving student got in there. There were something like 2 dozen that we already know about. The Trogie lawyers are pretty good, but what with all the other scandals (gyno-gate, etc.) they were already plowing through deep doo-doo.

The Trogies are the scandal champs, as per usual. BUT how much worse will it get for UCLA? I hope only the one coach was involved. Some people will say that it's even worse when such stuff happens at a public U.
Woochifer
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Hoping that the scandal is contained to Salcedo
Posted Wed, Mar 13 4:37 pm (Edited Wed, Mar 13 4:41 pm)
In response to No doubt it will get even worse for S'ern Cal (Section2)
There were two walk-ons that Salcedo illegally assisted. One was a male soccer walk-on, and that case seems pretty self-contained -- Salcedo was paid $100k to designate the applicant as a recruit, end of story.

But, the case of Lauren Isackson is the one to possibly worry about, since it involved more people. She actually has an athletic department profile with her soccer credentials. Just looking at this, she seems like a legit walk-on. Problem is that according to the indictment, her soccer resume was falsified.

https://uclabruins.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=5425

Lauren supposedly wanted to attend Southern Cal, but Heinel found out that her application had been inadvertently directed to the regular admission group (and presumably denied admission). At that point, the former Southern Cal soccer coach that had been working with the Isackson family, and created the fake soccer resume, contacted Salcedo. Once Salcedo received the resume and academic paperwork (also presumably faked), he forwarded it onto the women's soccer staff. Who reviewed it at that point, we don't know yet. From the indictment, Isackson's walk-on offer was approved by the student-athlete admissions committee.

The primary question for women's soccer is whether anyone became suspicious during the review process. It's plausible that the club coaches were also on the take, and that would address any inquiries that Cromwell's staff might have made. The other question would be how long Isackson was actually affiliated with the team, since her provisional admission required that she spend at least one year with the team. If she showed up and Cromwell saw that Isackson's soccer skills did not match her resume, was she just sent packing or did she just not show up? Those kinds of specifics we don't know yet.

Stories abound about walk-ons admitted as a favor to someone, and don't bother to show up when the teams start practice.
cnet
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She's going to sing like a canary
Posted Wed, Mar 13 3:45 pm
In response to 75% of FBI complaint is on U.S.C. Its getting worse (1) (bruinbeast)
To avoid jail time. This could get juicy.

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Section2
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You mean, to >minimize< jail time
Posted Wed, Mar 13 3:57 pm
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'cause I don't think there's any way, no matter how sweetly she sings, she gets away with just probation.
Woochifer
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Gonna get ugly for anyone who claimed a tax deduction
Posted Wed, Mar 13 4:17 pm
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The counselor who ran the scam did so under the pretense of the parents making "charitable" donations. And the fake charity would then serve as the slush fund for bribing the coaches (and the administrator at Southern Cal).

I read the wire tap transcript of Bruce Isackson (father of both a UCLA and Southern Cal "walk-on" admit), and he was actively inquiring about when he would get the 501(c)(3) donation letter for his taxes. Later wire taps and live recordings had his reaction when informed that the purported charity was being audited and he would likely get asked questions. He was talking about the need to coordinate stories. Sounded like something more out of mob investigation.

Because all of these bribes were funneled through a fake charity, anyone who claimed a tax deduction could have additional charges filed. These are all federal crimes, and the counselor claimed that he served over 800 students. This might be only the tip of the iceberg. Now the fun starts, with everyone jockeying to see what kind of deal they can cut with the feds.
Section2
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Ain't that the truth! And deservedly so.
Posted Wed, Mar 13 5:08 pm
In response to Gonna get ugly for anyone who claimed a tax deduction (Woochifer)
It's bad enough to work the system to gain fraudulent admission for your child. It's another and arguably less forgivable crime, and incredibly foolish, to have the chutzpah to also claim a tax break based on the fraud.
Woochifer
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Heinel was the #3 person in Heritage Hall
Posted Wed, Mar 13 3:59 pm (Edited Wed, Mar 13 4:02 pm)
In response to 75% of FBI complaint is on U.S.C. Its getting worse (1) (bruinbeast)
Swann is nothing but a figurehead. He has been asleep at the wheel since landing back at Southern Cal, and had zero administrative experience when hired. That allows underlings like Heinel to run wild and carve out their own fiefdoms.

Recall that Heinel played a central role in the firing of long-time volleyball coach Mick Haley, who filed a lawsuit against Southern Cal alleging age discrimination and naming Heinel as a defendant. The suit described an athletic department run amok with athletic administrators ruling in an atmosphere of "fear, intimidation, harassment and discrimination."

Out of all the schools named, Southern Cal is the only one with a high-level administrator involved. That's why so many of allegations run through Southern Cal. If you read the filings, counselors and admissions staffers did raise red flags. But, having Heinel as a high-level conspirator meant that she could provide cover by lying and obfuscating any inquiries that came her way.

With UCLA, the alleged bribes to Salcedo were contingent on him being able to get the applicant admitted. There were no guarantees that the scam would work because he had no direct control over what the student-athlete admission committee would decide. As far as we know, there were two fake applicants at UCLA, and both of them went through the soccer program.

At Southern Cal, you had alleged scams touching on multiple teams with over two dozen students involved. These were spread throughout athletic program, and Heinel was allegedly the gatekeeper for all of the walk-on offers. So far, we only know of 3 other coaches (women's soccer and water polo) at Southern Cal who were directly involved. But, supposedly these walk-on offers also came from the crew, football, basketball, and track teams. Were any of those coaches involved as well?

And your question about the money is legit. This is dirty money from a fake charity, with scammers taking tax deductions. Do we know where that money ended up? Was it merely disguised to look above board, or was it embezzled into off-book accounts? We know the $250k going to Vavic was deposited into a water polo program bank account that he controlled. What else is out there?
blue and gold 4-ever
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Lack Of Institutional Control If I've Heard One !
Posted Wed, Mar 13 4:47 pm
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This is beyond ridiculous and this is just the start ! The Chicken S NCAA will wait to see what the FBI finalizes and will let the Government clean up the mess and sit back and do nothing ! I was listening to Dan Patrick ,who's son went to $UC, and he was pouring it on pretty good. Former Tojamb QB Rodney Peete sounded more embarrassed than disgusted and brought up a good point of it's just not this group that did this but how many more are out there ? It is hard to believe there was only one of these operations going on . Rick Kimbrel of The Athletic said the Athletic Department should be "blown Up " once and for all ! I'll take bets that this never happens .
Woochifer
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The NCAA is toothless, but the FBI isn't
Posted Wed, Mar 13 5:46 pm
In response to Lack Of Institutional Control If I've Heard One ! (blue and gold 4-ever)
The problem with NCAA investigations is that they depend on the institutions' cooperation. They have no subpoena power and they cannot issue warrants, which makes them effectively a paper tiger.

Usually, if a school gets caught, they will self-sanction and then let the NCAA investigation play out and hopefully no additional penalties will be imposed.

Southern Cal went the obstruction route in the Reggie Bush case, which delayed things. The crazy part is that it might have worked if not for Lloyd Lake saving the receipts and handing over the entire paper trail over to NCAA investigators. The even crazier part is that Lake would have totally settled and gone dark if not for Reggie Bush being such a cheapa** scumbag. All Bush had to do was pay Lake back for all the freebies he gave Bush and his family. Bush could afford it, and he could have saved his alma mater from sanctions. But, the guy was a selfish cheapskate, and Southern Cal got the NCAA hammer dropped on them.

In this case, the thing to look out for will be how much of the legal proceedings end up in the public record. If all the defendants in this case want to avoid further embarrassment and settle with the feds, then we might not see much in the public domain. But, if they go to trial, then all of that discovery becomes public. And that's what the NCAA would potentially use, IF they're interested in actual enforcement.

Problem is that I think the Miami debacle has made the NCAA gunshy about doing high profile investigations. They seem content with self-enforcement nowadays.
bruinbeast
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Word is .. Salcedo was hooked up by SC soccer coach
Posted Wed, Mar 13 7:20 pm
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Thanks
Woochifer
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Heinel actually f*d up, that's why Salcedo got involved
Posted Wed, Mar 13 7:55 pm (Edited Wed, Mar 13 7:58 pm)
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According to the complaint, Lauren Isackson wanted to attend Southern Cal. But, Heinel accidentally routed her application to the regular admissions group (where Isackson presumably was denied admission). Isackson's soccer resume was created by a former Southern Cal soccer coach (who was fired along with his entire staff back in 2013).

After Southern Cal messed up, the former Southern Cal coach sent the fake resume and other falsified credentials to Salcedo. At that point, Salcedo forwarded the information onto the women's soccer staff. Somewhere along the line, Salcedo was in contact with William Singer who allegedly arranged the bribe money transfer from his phony charity to Salcedo's marketing company.

If Southern Cal hadn't f*d up Isackson's application, she would have enrolled across town and not involved anyone from the women's soccer staff.

No matter what, Salcedo's hands aren't clean, since he allegedly took a straight up bribe to designate a male applicant as a recruit.
JosephineBruin
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f'in jorge, gracias para nada! nm
Posted Sat, Mar 16 7:21 am
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MysticBruin
I’m pretty sure
Posted Mon, Mar 18 3:02 pm (Edited Mon, Mar 18 3:03 pm)
In response to f'in jorge, gracias para nada! nm (JosephineBruin)
that Salcedo spoke to athletes and staff in English, so there’s no need to essentialize and write in Spanish just because he has a Spanish sounding name.

I’m glad that UCLA moved quickly and dumped the chump. I hope that cheating was limited to just him (unlike the mess they have on their hands at $C).
adolfin
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We may be missing the larger point..
Posted Wed, Mar 13 6:18 pm (Edited Wed, Mar 13 6:19 pm)
In response to 75% of FBI complaint is on U.S.C. Its getting worse (1) (bruinbeast)
...that this all makes Helton look wildly competent in comparison and makes it less likely that they will be able to get rid of him in the midst of the chaos.