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Posted Mon, May 06 9:16 am
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In response to Things I don’t get (BRUINS 1)
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A graduate transfer has to be admitted with a very specific specialty and they had better prepared for that specialty as an undergrad.
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OswegoBruin
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Posted Mon, May 06 9:26 am
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A masters is far, FAR more difficult to obtain than an undergraduate degree. Especially at a place like UCLA, which in terms of overall graduate program value is no lower than fourth west of the rockies. Graduate programs also do not have "turnover", ie most kids in them finish them, whereas most undergraduate programs have kids jumping in and out frequently. |
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BastieBruin
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Posted Mon, May 06 10:47 am
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When you apply as an undergrad to the general pool, Murphy Hall is admitting everybody, and there is a general understanding that they will be allocating spots for athletes who otherwise would not be admitted. Students may later have to apply for specific majors that are "impacted" by over-enrollment, but that's a separate decision.
When you apply to grad school, I believe you are applying directly to the individual department itself, and admissions decisions are made there. For example, you apply to the "School of Engineering" or the "School of Education", etc. There are far fewer of these enrollment slots to begin with, and the individual graduate schools have zero incentive or desire to set aside enrollment slots for athletes at the expense of students that they perceive as more qualified and committed. This problem is exacerbated due to the history of grad transfers bailing on UCLA as soon as their one season is over. Or even sooner, since grades often don't come out until after the season. From the perspective of the individual grad schools, this is a complete waste of an enrollment slot.
I don't know how this is handled at other schools, but I could see it being a pretty tough nut to crack at UCLA. |
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ShowtimeUCLA
Joined: 11/19/17 Posts: 1,974
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Posted Mon, May 06 1:52 pm
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My undergrad experience was nothing like grad school. I did both at UCLA (I’m a loyal Bruin). Undergrad was just very laid back, at least for my major, political science. I was a psychology major early on and it was more challenging. That’s the luxury of undergrad. You can pick certain majors and game the system with certain courses and professors. Grad school is nothing like that. They have a strict curriculum and limited flexibility. Students tend to be far more serious too and everything is graded on a curve like system which basically pits you against other students. I couldn’t imagine how someone could be an athlete in graduate school. |
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88Straight
Joined: 8/17/15 Posts: 4,489
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Posted Mon, May 06 7:08 pm
(Edited Mon, May 06 7:16 pm)
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In response to Things I don’t get (BRUINS 1)
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Because a number of scholarships are planned upon from the jump.
Graduate transfers have to be admitted because there are a limited number of slots and they are for real students, not someone who just wants to be enrolled for basketball.
Beyond that, I think you are overstating the impact versus just recruiting well and developing your players.
Perhaps they could be admitted as an undergrad pursuing a 2nd degree in a different major? |
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