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SagoBob
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Not today they wouldn't...
Posted Wed, Mar 09 8:36 am
I enrolled at UCLA in the fall of '59. Red had just passed on in a downtown L.A. hotel, visiting an "old friend". I heard otherwise but since I wasn't there I'll let that story stand.
The L.A. media went with that story and eventually all was forgotten. George Dickerson was tapped to be the new HC. Thanks to the a-holes at 'Furd we were on probation and one of the consequences were "five game seniors". IIRC guys like Dick Wallen, Bill Leeka and Donnie Long could only participate in five games during their senior years.
George didn't last long. The pressure got to him and he was replaced by Bill Barnes. The glory days for UCLA pig were put on hold for a few years.
SC was up to its usual tricks, recruiting guys to keep them away from other schools. IIRC at that time there were no limitations on squad size, so SuCk could round 'em up and keep 'em in the pen.
One last thought, does anyone else remember the old athletic department offices in a single-story barracks type building facing Westwood Blvd? By today's standards that wouldn't impress too many recruits.
DocJock, you're up next!
DocJock
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Some Ancient Roots
Posted Wed, Mar 09 11:27 am
In response to Not today they wouldn't... (SagoBob)
Stanford sponsored UCLA's entry into the old conference which in my time was the 8 team Pacific Coast Conference, aka PCC. But it was more self serving than out of any love for us. Stanford was aware of the way southern California was expanding, and they reasoned if USC continued to monopolize the local talent, Stanford, would cease to be competitive with them. Their hope was that UCLA would siphon off some of that talent, which we did.

But then as now, USC was their own worst enemy. A very deep prejudical streak ran through the Admissions Office of the university. As recently as mid 20th. century, a friend felt compelled to change his jewish/German sirname to a more anglo sounding one in order to gain admission. I told him that you could get twice the education for 1/20th the fee at UCLA, but he was a second generation California and USC was the old, established uuniversity. A one time supervisor, as fine a fellow as you'd ever care to meet except for one blind spot, laughed when he recalled a float at a USC homecoming, depicting white students in blackface in a jungle landscape, with the sign over a shack reading, "UCLA Recruiting Station".
As I noted in my previous post, 31 years elapsed between Brice Taylor and the time USC extended an offer to another African American player. UCLA never drew the color line, and we might have been alone in integrating our athletic teams in the entire country. When Branch Rickey signed Jackie Robinson he told him, "This will be the first time you will be playing alongside and against whites. It will be a new experience and call for consummate restraint". Whereupon Jackie Robinson told him, "I went to UCLA so it that respect it won't be anything new".
If USC had been smart enough to recognize what a treasure trove of athletic talent resided in their own backyard, there is no doubt in my mind they would have become the dominant power in all of college football for 3 decades, the 1930's through the 1950's. But when were brains ever their strong suit? However, to their credit, they have been working hard trying to make amends for past sins.

The Stanford/UCLA lovefest, if you can call it that, began to unravel after we administered that 72-0 shellacking in 1954. I was there, personally acquainted with some of the notables involved, including a close friendship with the Daily Bruin sportswriter who had the football beat and travelled with the team.

Perhaps in my next installment, I'll write what led to the breakup of the conference and its aftermath.
DocJock
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RE: Not today they wouldn't...
Posted Wed, Mar 09 7:08 pm
In response to Not today they wouldn't... (SagoBob)
George Dickinson was as fine a gentleman as you would ever encounter. He had my brother in his gym class, and called him champ on every occasion they passed each other on campus. My brother was as unathletic as you can get, but Dickinson was genuinely sincere in giving everyone his unqualified approval.

Talking with some ex players who played for Billy Barnes, one of mine among them, they were unanimous in their opinion he was a better head coach than popularly acknowledged, but Red Sanders was a tough act to follow.
Elevin
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RE: Not today they wouldn't...
Posted Thu, Mar 10 9:18 am
In response to Not today they wouldn't... (SagoBob)
I still have it in for Stanford and Hollis of Oregon for that probation fiasco. I remember a glove dept stuffed with parking tickets. Like most, I commuted off & on when I was at Ucla. Sometimes the traffic between La Canada and Westwood jeopardized getting to class on time without grabbing the first spot on the street, even if it was next to a 2 hour parking sign.
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Spending A Significant Portion Of My Life At UCLA
Posted Mon, May 09 4:01 pm
In response to RE: Not today they wouldn't... (Elevin)
I witnessed the on and nearby off campus parking go from bad, to worse, to impossible in my long, drawn out pursuit of knowledge and paper work at UCLA.
I tell you nothing but the absolute and unfiltered truth when I say there were times I returned in 2 hours and 5 minutes after parking my car in a two hour zone, only to find a ticket on my wind shield. I don't know how that would have been possible without someone hiding behind a bush when I arrived, then setting a two hour timer for my return. Of course, he or she could have written out a ticket even before the 2 hours expired. You don't think they'd be that blood thirsty for revenue, do you? Nah!